tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post2507486594991515869..comments2014-01-10T13:43:00.656-08:00Comments on Full Nest Revolution: My Response to "This Is Why Poor People's Bad Decisions Make Perfect Sense"Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-60513991095344282102014-01-10T13:43:00.656-08:002014-01-10T13:43:00.656-08:00My guess is you didn't grow up poor, huh? Bec...My guess is you didn't grow up poor, huh? Because no one who had ever been truly poor would make the assumptions you do, or the suggestions. I agree that money doesn't equal happiness. But imagine how happy you'd be if you lost most of yours and what it has bought for you. This post is oblivious to the reality of being poor.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04806211562444068303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-59589403323545436152013-12-29T12:47:34.044-08:002013-12-29T12:47:34.044-08:00Are you sure the 2nd job isn't paying for gas ...Are you sure the 2nd job isn't paying for gas to/from and cigarettes? I hope it is really necessary to have the 2nd job! because it is taking time away from her family. Sometimes, it seems like a necessity when in fact it isn't . . . but when you're in her shoes, there just isn't time to figure all of that out.<br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03938262747991030204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-88242482458162898672013-12-11T16:15:05.550-08:002013-12-11T16:15:05.550-08:00Thank you for this. I can actually speak from expe...Thank you for this. I can actually speak from experience that being poor doesn't mean you have to give up because you will never have anything. I was a poor single mom who worked hard, went to college and did move up to the middle class. Its not only possible its well within the reach of anyone with the drive to do it. Many of my friends have gone the same path, too. We didn't get the defeatist attitude that Mrs. Tiado expresses, we didn't just lay down and say "oh well my life sucks" and decide to spend every cent we had on whatever made us happy at the moment. <br /><br />Is it society's fault women never learned to cook or clean? No its their parent's. I was actually never shown how to cook and was always a slob but when I had to take care of my own home I sucked it up and figured it out. It actually isn't that hard. I have been so poor that the only bread we could afford was what I baked- and I couldn't even afford a bread pan so the loaves were just formed and put on a cookie sheet. You are right dirty dishes don't = roaches, filthy people do. Right now my kitchen sink is full of dirty dishes, and has been since last night yet I don't see bug 1 in my house. (My son does the dishes and he's behind). I rode the bus for years to and from work, to a job that was 14 miles away which I went after because it paid more than minimum wage and provided benefits. I cared enough about my kids to want the best for them. <br /><br />I will say I bet I know why she (or whomever she is channeling) is in school: pell grants. When I did finally go to college- part time I was surprised to find out the government paid ME because I was a single mom. I made $20k a year back then, 2 children and was attending class 1/2 time. My school fees were $700 to include the book and my pell grant was @ $2,000. Bonus! When I later took 9 credits: 3/4 time my pell jumped to $3,000 while my fees were around $1,000. I could only imagine what it would of been had I not been working and making more than min. wage. I also worked hard and took classes to get skills for a career, within 4 months I had a new job in a new industry that I am still in to this day.<br /><br />I am so sick of poor people making excuses for being poor. Guess what- Medicaid pays for birth control and you don't have to go to Planned Parenthood, just your local Dr. Your money will go farther if you stop smoking, drinking, and doing drugs. For years I did none of that all that money I would of used was able to go to foods, clothes, and even a pizza night at the $5 a head All You Can Eat place up the street from our house. I lived in a small 2 bedroom 1 bath house the size of my current living room. We didn't have cable, just a coat hanger and a VCR which I kept stocked with the used tapes sold at the Blockbuster. Come tax refund time I would buy a big ticket item I needed- be it a car, clothes, the occasional game system, oh and of course a year's worth of car insurance. I always paid my bills because I lived frugally. <br /><br />I picked myself up from nothing, now I work from home because I am disabled but I still work. My husband was downsized and took a job making 1/2 what he was before, but he's still working. Our lives changed. We don't go out to eat every week, we did have to cut back on our premium cable package with 3 DVRs, no we don't have new smart phones and we BBQ chicken more than anything these days. But we still have what we bought before- vehicles we own the title to, recreational equipment and personal items. We made it before we will make it again, we aren't going to lay down and cry the blues like a joint and say F it. Julie Jenkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952604010788039775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-13152899512722857682013-12-11T15:44:28.613-08:002013-12-11T15:44:28.613-08:00Actually the 7th paragraph starts "Nobody giv...Actually the 7th paragraph starts "Nobody gives enough thought to depression." Then goes on to explain why her life sucks and she's so miserable. Julie Jenkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952604010788039775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-48845929924410639872013-12-10T22:57:33.217-08:002013-12-10T22:57:33.217-08:00I don't support 7 people for $250 a month, I f...I don't support 7 people for $250 a month, I feed 7 people for $250 a month. :) <br /><br />I basically do it by making things from scratch, but just making things from scratch isn't always the cheapest way to go. I make things from scratch with what I already have or what I can get cheaply. I blog about "What I didn't buy today" at http://whatididntbuytoday.blogspot.com In today's blog post, I shared that I made egg nog. But I didn't run out and buy ingredients for egg nog, I looked at the ingredients I already had (in this case, lots of milk that was close to its expiration date and lots of eggs and whipping cream I had bought for another project but hadn't gotten around to yet) and realized they were the perfect ingredients for egg not. <br /><br />Another example is when I had leftover sweet potatoes from Thanksgiving. All the leftovers were eaten but for some reason, those sweet potatoes weren't getting eaten. So I mixed them with some leftover squash I had and made a sweet potato casserole out of them. All I had to do was buy some marshmallows. <br /><br />I follow the advice that was popular during the Great Depression: "Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-84135751086740138212013-12-09T11:34:10.118-08:002013-12-09T11:34:10.118-08:00She didn't ask for the money. People who thin...She didn't ask for the money. People who think problems are solved by throwing money at them, threw money at her. Who is to blame here? <br /><br />If no one sent her a penny, her story would have been just as important and just as meaningful, but because people sent her money (on their own accord) she is now a liar and scam artist?<br /><br />Bullshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-69110373887928184212013-12-09T11:29:56.786-08:002013-12-09T11:29:56.786-08:00I'm single and pay only for myself. $250/mont...I'm single and pay only for myself. $250/month is about half of my rent. How can you possibly support 7 people with that much money???<br /><br />I'm generally curious. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-64448910998771642082013-12-05T08:51:59.554-08:002013-12-05T08:51:59.554-08:00My June Cleaver comment wasn't to your persona...My June Cleaver comment wasn't to your personally, just in general. So may people believe that stay at home moms are Desperate Housewives - if only. I enjoy being back at school and working because it means I get to be around other adults with conversations that don't revolve around children and home. My mental state thanks me. Some women are great being the stereotypical nuclear housewives, and some are better being Rosie the Riveters. I'm the first to admit that being home at least for the first few years was an incredible positive aspect on my children, even as I lost my mind - and they were definitely worth it.aeriallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07143573449324892656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-67390906988940128142013-12-04T23:14:55.179-08:002013-12-04T23:14:55.179-08:00I assure you my blog's purpose is not to attac...I assure you my blog's purpose is not to attack anything. I also assure you that I do attempt to do good in my life, on my levels, including in my writing. In this particular post, my goal was to do good by encouraging anyone who might be thinking like Mrs. Tirado explained that you don't have to have that type of attitude about your life just because you don't have money. Life can be very, very good regardless of how much money you have. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-65749380032712085772013-12-04T23:11:57.390-08:002013-12-04T23:11:57.390-08:00I know what you mean about being stressed from bei...I know what you mean about being stressed from being home alone with children all the time. I was like that when my children were younger. Your comments about being June Cleaver sparked something in me, because I am definitely *NOT* the June Cleaver type. So I wrote a new blog post explaining: http://www.fullnestrevolution.blogspot.com/2013/12/im-no-june-cleaver.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-45534840794652139022013-12-04T11:35:04.070-08:002013-12-04T11:35:04.070-08:00So, your blog is to basically attack what Mrs. Tir...So, your blog is to basically attack what Mrs. Tirado has written instead of building on it? You do know that she made it clear those were her (subjective) observations. People like you don't try to do good, you attempt to ostracise. Why don't you try to write something original and inspiring?Charles Leslie Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10319091060744043413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-21017047602234834722013-12-03T12:42:10.150-08:002013-12-03T12:42:10.150-08:00I am a full-time student who works part-time and h...I am a full-time student who works part-time and has a husband that works two jobs and my children are happy and healthy and they only see their father on weekends and me for a few hours every night. I was a stay-at-home mom for the first five years of their lives, they are 14 and 11 now and it was the hardest five years of my life as I battled severe depression from being home and with my children all the time (we had one car and were too far away from public transport).<br /><br />Going back to work was the best thing I ever did for my family as they went to school during the day as I have neither the patience nor the desire to home school. For some moms its great to stay home and be Betty Crocker and Joan Cleaver, for me and for the sake of my children I'm better off in the work force. I love my children dearly and would die for them in a heartbeat, but not everyone is cut out to be a stay home mom. Our finances are better with me working, my children are able to do more things with their friends, we eat better because I can buy better quality food and my children have not suffered because I work. <br /><br />Am I in debt up to my eyeballs with student loans, yes, but they are worth it when my teenage daughter claims her Presidential Academic Award is because she works hard at school because she sees her mom work hard. Since we manage on my husbands income fine, barely breaking poverty line but managing, we can put 100% of my income after school to my loans. Education is a way out of poverty and keeping any woman from that opportunity is wrong.<br /><br />While I liked your response, and believe the other woman's story is a crock, not everyone wants to being tied up in apron strings and some mothers are better mothers when they have time away. I know I am. I have more patience, and can thoroughly enjoy my children because the time is all that more precious. aeriallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07143573449324892656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-33207214758864358432013-12-02T21:29:28.576-08:002013-12-02T21:29:28.576-08:00Or maybe she just wrote a blog post about her situ...Or maybe she just wrote a blog post about her situation and observations. Money doesn't buy happiness. Maybe you should go through life working your ass off and having depression and then see if you still think it's a "scam." Innocent till proven guilty, asshole. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17727606802149398970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-4916023272133298592013-12-02T20:21:43.831-08:002013-12-02T20:21:43.831-08:00I'm sorry but you don't have a clue. Havi...I'm sorry but you don't have a clue. Having time to cook, having time to make things from scratch is a luxury. You know what lets you feed you family on a small amount of money? Free time to cook. When you are trying to work towards a better job because a degree is near mandatory for that, while trying to pay the bills that won't wait and make sure that your kids aren't taken from you free time does not exist. There is not time for bike rides or trips to the zoo, there is not time to cook a meal from scratch. There is only time for what is absolutely necessary and stolen moments for what is not.Natasha Simmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577281896362869215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-86632640005207125172013-12-02T15:17:01.213-08:002013-12-02T15:17:01.213-08:00I can guarantee that Linda Tirado is happy. She ju...I can guarantee that Linda Tirado is happy. She just successfully scammed $62,000 on the internet with a fake story.Mike McRobertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17318113206271393172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-85361135050147878682013-12-02T13:17:17.020-08:002013-12-02T13:17:17.020-08:00Wow, do you not get it.
This was an extremely offe...Wow, do you not get it.<br />This was an extremely offensive piece. When one is hungry and worried all the time about losing what small security one does have, I doubt that being HAPPY is something that one is not concentrating on rather than just trying to survive.<br /><br />shame.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17196749095588392692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-90612355035742644832013-12-02T06:02:16.985-08:002013-12-02T06:02:16.985-08:00I followed the link you posted in the comments of ...I followed the link you posted in the comments of the article you are referencing. The first thing that struck me is that you jump to wild conclusions not supported by her essay. The biggest is that she is not happy. I didn't see any evidence from the article that she is unhappy with her life. Nor does it sound like she's complaining or wishing she had more money. It was pretty clearly explaining to privileged people who can't possibly understand her life decisions why they make perfect sense for her. Staceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07860183367635196434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-16095538992023567652013-12-01T17:51:30.298-08:002013-12-01T17:51:30.298-08:00Good point! Good point! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-22941252014560051642013-12-01T13:56:45.529-08:002013-12-01T13:56:45.529-08:00Why is everyone talking about single moms? The lad...Why is everyone talking about single moms? The lady in the article isnt even a single mom atm. She has a husband. I'm pretty sure my mom juggled us three kids, school and a full time job there for a couple years- in a house falling apart and full of mice and roaches ... and her pot roast didn't suffer for it. It was immature decisions as a young person that got her into the hole, but it was maturing into an adult and throwing herself into productive work and frugality that got her out of it... not whining that she was in the hole in the first place. Sovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17823402790421375361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-44174810921804088722013-12-01T09:57:24.809-08:002013-12-01T09:57:24.809-08:00It is a myth that having a stay-at-home parent is ...It is a myth that having a stay-at-home parent is a luxury that only the rich can afford.<br /><br />And while a lot of us don't have parents who created the atmosphere for a multi-generational home, many if us have or will one day have adult children and *WE* can create that. We can make wise choices right now and set the example for our children and help the next generation so they don't have a defeatist attitude. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-6543802228694965172013-12-01T09:50:38.190-08:002013-12-01T09:50:38.190-08:00I don't think I 've missed the point at al...I don't think I 've missed the point at all. I 'm saying that I DO know people living joyful lives and making good decisions on very small incomes. I myself am feeding 7 people on 250 a month and could do it on less if I had to. <br /><br />It's not the level of income that's the problem, it's the defeatist attitude that life is going to suck because of it. Because you can do a heck a lot with very little money. <br /><br />I've known people living out of their car who live joyful lives and ate raising happy kids. <br /><br />You can take what you do have and make the most of it or you can squander the little you have, like the biblical parable of the talents. <br /><br />If you say, "I will be happy when_____", you will never be happy. The decision to be happy must come first.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-3172040101322990982013-12-01T09:42:41.192-08:002013-12-01T09:42:41.192-08:00Laurie--you are certainly an inspiration! I've...Laurie--you are certainly an inspiration! I've always admired single parents who homeschool and stay very involved with their kids, support themselves, and live a healthy lifestyle! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459000984846317926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-46947751849157746052013-12-01T09:02:57.388-08:002013-12-01T09:02:57.388-08:00Very refreshing article; What a great shout out to...Very refreshing article; What a great shout out to us single parents who have homeschooled and live lives out in nature because we know happiness is about being with family, living for simple joys and watching our children grow. I love your discussion of keeping our older 18+ year old children close in multi-generational homes to prevent them from living lives that consist of work, work, work and no joy. My son loves living at home and pursuing his joys while working at what he loves to do. Also, great shout-out to eating healthy and unprocessed! I can never understand families who work and school their lives away and only spend that one hour a day with their loved ones... The one thing I will say is that struggles to meet basic needs can certainly increase stress and anxiety which can impact happiness. However, I agree that it isn't "stuff" that helps that, but the ability and assistance to meet basic needs. Thank you for the wonderful words of wisdom!Laurie A. Couturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10448342549546313450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-86137416358140582162013-12-01T04:59:32.968-08:002013-12-01T04:59:32.968-08:00You're not making any sense. This article make...You're not making any sense. This article makes no sense, why did you bother to respond if you clearly have no real insight in to the author's circumstances? <br /><br />You must be joking writing all that crap.Raecinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07249685803697057834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1497809591307074779.post-86816154798366194522013-12-01T00:57:33.264-08:002013-12-01T00:57:33.264-08:00Are you for real? You really compare having one p...Are you for real? You really compare having one parent staying home full time so they can play with their kids, go hiking, cook from scratch, make play dough and go to the museum to having no time to do any of that because you are always working, studying or cleaning, surviving on three hours a night sleep? Would that family have the same lifestyle and level of happiness if they lacked the time for any of that? <br /><br />You seem to have completely missed the point. The working poor do not have the luxury of time that stay at home mothers do.<br /><br />And not everyone has the luxury of a multi-generational household either.maryannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09363231067851685121noreply@blogger.com